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Kenny Red
Starting Member

USA
9 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2004 :  21:31:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a VS-II but am considering buying a StroboStomp for playing out on stage. Does the StroboStomp have the same accuracy (0.1 cents) as the other Peterson tuners? Can I do the Buzz Feiten intonation with it (I know it has the Buzz Feiten tuning offsets) Thanks, Kenny

John Norris
Peterson Strobe Tuner Rep

USA
2426 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2004 :  13:22:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Kenny,

The StroboStomp is accurate to 0.1 cents like all other Peterson tuners, making it by far the most accurate pedal tuner on the market.
It is also fully programmable, so you can put whatever offsets you like into it, to start you hold the left button down while you plug a cord into the input jack, you'll see this screen:



Using the right button you choose either P-1 or P-2 for storing your offsets. Then the notes are displayed one after another, using the button on the right you enter the cent offset for that note and using the left button you advance to the next note...



The last note is the high E (designated by an arrow beside the E pointing upwards...



When all the relevant notes have been offset, press the left button once (save menu) and the right button twice...





Remember, you only have to do this once, set it and forget it !

John N.
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John Norris
Peterson Strobe Tuner Rep

USA
2426 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2005 :  17:30:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Buzz Feiten Intonation Procedure for Electric Guitar (BFTS)
After deciding on string gauge, setting string height (nut & bridge), neck relief — factors that will later affect the guitars intonation considerably — the individual string lengths need to be adjusted. For this task, enter both the open string and 12th fret intonation offsets into the P-1 and P-2 programmable slots on your StroboStomp, VS-II or V-SAM tuner.

Settings to be entered into P-1:
Note________Open String Offsets
E___________________00
B__________________+01
G__________________-02
D__________________-02
A__________________-02
E__________________-02
(on VS-II and V-SAM tuners, use F = -2)

Settings to be entered into P-2:
Note__________12th Fret Offsets
E___________________00
B___________________00
G__________________+01
D__________________+01
A___________________00
E___________________00



• Lower the pickups away from the strings to avoid "doubling" and electromagnetic pull.

• Lay the guitar flat on a bench to adjust it, but always check the intonation with the instrument in the playing position, as the readings will be visibly (and later audibly) different.

You should always aim to freeze or "cage" the image on the Strobe Tuner display, the less movement the more accurate the results.

In this method, select your programmed P-1 temperament and tune the open string...



...then switch to your programmed P-2 temperament and fret the same string at the 12th fret (VS-II & V-SAM users use the "Value" knob to switch back and forth, StroboStomp users use the "Toggle" feature)......



...saddle position is carefully adjusted as follows:

• If the fretted note displays flat, move the bridge saddle forward to shorten the string (turn the saddle screw counter-clockwise)...



• If the fretted note displays sharp, move the bridge saddle back to lengthen the string (turn the saddle screw clockwise)...



Always re-tune the open string using P-1 after adjusting the saddle position before re-checking the result fretted string at the 12th fret with P-2...



...check the string fretted on the 12th fret again using P-2...



• Taking the 6th string as an example, tune until the open string is 2 cents flat and the same string fretted at the 12th fret is in tune to 00.0 cents.

Please note this method is meant for guitars featuring the Buzz Feiten Tuning System or guitars which have been retrofitted.
For the necessary compensated nut, see your local authorized Buzz Feiten Retrofitter.


John N.
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kitko33
Starting Member

United Kingdom
1 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2006 :  06:22:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I got the Buzz Feiten System installed recently, but I'm having troubles with intonation. I've programmed P-1 and P-2 offsets on my StroboStomp, tuned the guitar, set the intonation according to these instructions. Open strings are in tune with P-1, strings fretted at 12positions are in tune with P-2 setting.

However, playing, let's say minichord at 12fret on strings G and B with distortion on is really painful, it's more out of tune than on my non-BF guitar. Guitar gets more out tune from 10th fret up, and playing with distortion is simply no-no-no. G and B are simply out of tune through all the fretboard.

Am I doing something wrong?
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John Norris
Peterson Strobe Tuner Rep

USA
2426 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2006 :  14:59:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Kitko,
what we have done here is to explain how to use the tuners with the Buzz Feiten system, for questions about its physical application to guitars and the results etc., the people to ask are either Buzz Feiten Design or your local BF installer.

John N.


What Is A Strobe Tuner?


Its a..


Guitar tuner (strobostomp)
Reso tuner (StroboFlip)
Piano tuner (AutoStrobe 490ST)
Harp tuner (StroboFlip)
Guitar techs tuner (AutoStrobe 490)
Pedal steel guitar tuner (StroboFlip)
Bass tuner (StroboStomp)
Violin tuner (StroboFlip)
Tap tuner (Strobe Center 5000 II)
Viola tuner (StroboFlip)
Steelpan tuner (AutoStrobe 590)
Lute tuner (StroboFlip)
Cello tuner (StroboFlip)
Percussion tuner (Strobe Center 5000 II)
Buzz Feiten System tuner (StroboFlip)
Bagpipe tuner (V-SAM)
Classroom tuner (Strobe Center 5000 II)
Accordion tuner (AutoStrobe 590)
Dobro tuner (StroboFlip)
True bypass tuner (StroboStomp)
Software tuner (StroboSoft)
Rack tuner (AutoStrobe R490)
Pedal tuner (strobostomp)
Harmonica tuner (StroboFlip)
Bell tuner (Strobe Center 5000 II)
Luthiers tuner (AutoStrobe 490)
Its the most accurate tuner
Its the original tuner...
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ILUVMYJP7
Starting Member

5 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2006 :  11:27:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is great info guys(great post John Norris), but can anyone give me the offsets (both open and fretted) for the 7th or low B string, thanks!
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dbeeman
Starting Member

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2006 :  18:55:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is there any way to just use the builtin BFTS settings to set my guitar's intonation?

dB
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Turbo
Road Warrior

Norway
129 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2006 :  00:58:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi dbeeman,

your StroboStomp has the open string presets for tuning already programmed. This is for "on-stage" tuning with a BF guitar. You can also use this when you are doing your intonation on your BF guitar, but for BF electric guitar you have to have two offset notes, one open string offset and one 12th fret offset. So what you have to do is to enter the 12th fret offsets for intonation into one of its programmable banks, P-1 or P-2.


Here are the presets (for 12th fret) that you have to program into your tuner:
Note__________12th Fret Offsets
E___________________00
B___________________00
G__________________+01
D__________________+01
A___________________00
E___________________00


But the best way (like the instructions from John Norris on this topic) is to program both offsets (open string offset and 12th fret offset) into P-1 and P-2, because it is easier to toggle between P-1 and P-2 when doing the intonation than it is to toggle between the pre-programmed BFTS preset and one of the P-1 or P-2.



Turbo
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John Norris
Peterson Strobe Tuner Rep

USA
2426 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2006 :  08:31:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The offset for the low B string on the 7-string guitar would be:

Tuned open B = -2 cents
Intonated at 12th fret (fretted note) B = 0 cents

The other 6 strings E low to E high follow the BFTS 6-string electric guitar offsets.

John N.


What Is A Strobe Tuner?


Its a..


Guitar tuner (strobostomp)
Reso tuner (StroboFlip)
Piano tuner (AutoStrobe 490ST)
Harp tuner (StroboFlip)
Guitar techs tuner (AutoStrobe 490)
Pedal steel guitar tuner (StroboFlip)
Bass tuner (StroboStomp)
Violin tuner (StroboFlip)
Tap tuner (Strobe Center 5000 II)
Viola tuner (StroboFlip)
Steelpan tuner (AutoStrobe 590)
Lute tuner (StroboFlip)
Cello tuner (StroboFlip)
Percussion tuner (Strobe Center 5000 II)
Buzz Feiten System tuner (StroboFlip)
Bagpipe tuner (V-SAM)
Classroom tuner (Strobe Center 5000 II)
Accordion tuner (AutoStrobe 590)
Dobro tuner (StroboFlip)
True bypass tuner (StroboStomp)
Software tuner (StroboSoft)
Rack tuner (AutoStrobe R490)
Pedal tuner (strobostomp)
Harmonica tuner (StroboFlip)
Bell tuner (Strobe Center 5000 II)
Luthiers tuner (AutoStrobe 490)
Its the most accurate tuner
Its the original tuner...
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Turbo
Road Warrior

Norway
129 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2006 :  11:34:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry, I forgot about the low B string on 7-string guitars. Thanks John!


Turbo
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Novillo
Starting Member

Spain
2 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2006 :  15:44:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How do i have to tune with buzz feiten I´m new with de peterson

Enrique Novillo
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John Norris
Peterson Strobe Tuner Rep

USA
2426 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2006 :  15:51:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you have an electric guitar with the Buzz Feiten System installed, just select the BFE preset and tune.
Here is the Spanish manual for the StroboStomp

John N.


What Is A Strobe Tuner?


Its a..


Guitar tuner (strobostomp)
Reso tuner (StroboFlip)
Piano tuner (AutoStrobe 490ST)
Harp tuner (StroboFlip)
Guitar techs tuner (AutoStrobe 490)
Pedal steel guitar tuner (StroboFlip)
Bass tuner (StroboStomp)
Violin tuner (StroboFlip)
Tap tuner (Strobe Center 5000 II)
Viola tuner (StroboFlip)
Steelpan tuner (AutoStrobe 590)
Lute tuner (StroboFlip)
Cello tuner (StroboFlip)
Percussion tuner (Strobe Center 5000 II)
Buzz Feiten System tuner (StroboFlip)
Bagpipe tuner (V-SAM)
Classroom tuner (Strobe Center 5000 II)
Accordion tuner (AutoStrobe 590)
Dobro tuner (StroboFlip)
True bypass tuner (StroboStomp)
Software tuner (StroboSoft)
Rack tuner (AutoStrobe R490)
Pedal tuner (strobostomp)
Harmonica tuner (StroboFlip)
Bell tuner (Strobe Center 5000 II)
Luthiers tuner (AutoStrobe 490)
Its the most accurate tuner
Its the original tuner...
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Joe W
Starting Member

1 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2006 :  22:21:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am getting my Les Paul fitted with a BFTS. How would I use the strobostomp to "Drop D" tune?
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John Norris
Peterson Strobe Tuner Rep

USA
2426 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2006 :  08:15:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Joe,
The StroboStomp is chromatic, just tune your low E down to D.

John N.
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kranius
Starting Member

2 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2006 :  05:15:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
can someone explain the last point, "• Taking the 6th string as an example, tune until the open string is 2 cents flat and the same string fretted at the 12th fret is in tune to 00.0 cents."

I'd like to adjust intonation on my guitar, HOw can i read the cents? I have the stroboStomp
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John Norris
Peterson Strobe Tuner Rep

USA
2426 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2006 :  09:42:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Kranius,
If you've programmed the open offsets into P-1 and the intonation offsets into P-2, the setting for the 6th string (E) will be -2.0 cents in P-1 and 0.0 cents in P2 automatically, no need to look for cents or remember offsets, the tuner does it for you. You use P-1 (-2 cents automatically) to tune the string, and then you switch to P-2 to fret it at the 12th fret.

John N.
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