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elee05
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Posted - 01/31/2007 :  20:55:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What is the lowest note (frequency) that the tuner can tune?

John Norris
Peterson Strobe Tuner Rep

USA
2426 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2007 :  08:32:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
8Hz - Lower than any pedal tuner made.

John N.
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NickH
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/12/2007 :  13:58:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

If it's 8Hz why does your FAQ say it's 5Hz?

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Normally, the Virtual Strobe series tuners can sense input pitches at around C1 (Concert C in octave 1) or about 31 Hz. For tuning or intonating the low B on a 5-string bass guitar or the lowest notes playable on a tuba, for example, a special Bass Shift function is provided (VS-1/VS-II/V-SAM only - the StroboStomp measures down to 5Hz out of the box). With this unique feature, pitches below 8 Hz - about 1/3 the threshold of human hearing, 2 octaves below the low B on a 5-string bass - are detectable and readable (if you can find such an animal!).


Could you please clarify?

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N
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John Norris
Peterson Strobe Tuner Rep

USA
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Posted - 02/12/2007 :  15:14:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
8Hz is correct for the StroboStomp, there are other VS models that go down to 5Hz.
Its a misprint in the FAQ and probably happened when the FAQ was updated to include the StroboStomp (the manual is correct).
What musical instrument are you looking to tune at 5Hz?

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NickH
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/12/2007 :  16:36:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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What musical instrument are you looking to tune at 5Hz?
None, but just because a manufacturer of a piece of equipment claims that an item of hardware is technically capable of a task, doesn’t mean that it will be particularly adept at it in a real life practical application…

This unfortunate trend has led most sensible/technically aware buyers to research heavily and buy equipment that is well within tolerance for their particular day to day tasks. Plenty of headroom (or in this case foot-room) gives us a chance of a better performing product. I feel sure anyone that has ended up dropkicking a k&$g or b@ss tuner our of the studio door in frustration because it couldn’t accurately tune the lowest notes of a heavily detuned metal bass even though the manufacturer claims it can ‘handle’ that frequency would agree. (I knew from experience a VS1 could handle the job, I needed to know which other Peterson products would as well...)

Detailed specifications are an indispensable tool when researching a new piece of studio equipment especially when the majority of them are not as reasonably priced as your own. However, when those specifications contradict themselves on the manufacturer’s own web site… This can cause some unnecessary concern.

5 days ago I knew I was going to buy a Peterson tuner, what I didn’t know was which one…

It took me until yesterday to make my final decision, because a detailed comparison chart of all your virtual strobe products was not available on your web site. This meant I had to download every single pdf manual, visit ever single product page & pour through other websites to find the information I required.

A simple table containing all of your virtual strobe products across the top with a list of features & technical specifications down the left hand side would have made my (and all other tech-geeks, and let’s remember what kind of product you make here… ) purchasing decision a four minute one rather than a four day one.

Just a thought…



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John Norris
Peterson Strobe Tuner Rep

USA
2426 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2007 :  15:35:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Nick,
We had a master spec sheet on the site at one stage, but there was never enough info on it for everyone, we rely on the forum more now because the information can be given fast and on-topic, whatever the question may be.
You can rest assured that any of the VS tuners can handle any kind of metal style bass tuning without a problem, the way a Peterson tunes is different from how digital needle and LED tuners work.
The lowest tuned bass instruments I've come accross are the "extended range bass" type, usually up to 12 individual strings tuned as low as 15Hz, but it doesn't really get any lower than that, certainly not in metal, you need special heavy gauge strings for extremely low tuning, La Bella Strings seem to be the specialists for that.

Heres French bassist Yves Carbonne who uses a V-SAM, he's tried other tuners and they just can't track that low, in Yve's case his lowest string is B at 15Hz (a complete octave below the lowest string of a regular 5 string bass):



... and Chicago extended range bassist Jauqo III-X who plays a Sub-Contra 4 String bass its highest string is E, normally the lowest string on a regular 4 string bass and his lowest string is a C# almost an octave below low B on a regular 5 string (and a ), he uses a StroboStomp...



For the record, the only real difference between 8 and 5Hz is not musical, its that your other kidney also explodes and your liver turns to mush !


John N.
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